Posts by Jon Preston

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Thinking about meeting with the elders...might record, any tips for hiding a recorder?

by Jon Preston in

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friends

ive been speaking with my wife and she feels that its the honest thing to do and just meet with the elders and tell them my thoughts and doubts.

not to rejoin but da if i want.

she brought out that its rude of us for them to expect us to do parts and think alls well, and the.

cosmos episode 2...

by confusedandalone in

makes me want to scream... the evolution of the eye is amazing.

i am floored.. that is all.

Jon Preston

Yea it was great! Im watching episode three right now

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Letter to Governing Body .Recorded conversations with Elders

by Watchtower-Free in

i found this on youtube...very good example of twisted reasoning by elders.. .

recorded conversations with elders by a former pioneer....a series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw8amuphqis.

Jon Preston

Eh maybe but once u realize they have no hold over you the only thing that hirts is losing fam and friends...they should be ashamed

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Thinking about meeting with the elders...might record, any tips for hiding a recorder?

by Jon Preston in

jw
friends

ive been speaking with my wife and she feels that its the honest thing to do and just meet with the elders and tell them my thoughts and doubts.

not to rejoin but da if i want.

she brought out that its rude of us for them to expect us to do parts and think alls well, and the.

Ive been speaking with my wife and she feels that its the honest thing to do and just meet with the elders and tell them my thoughts and doubts. Not to rejoin but DA if i want. She brought out that its rude of us for them To expect us to do parts and think alls well, and the. Us keeping bailing out. So i think im going to be taken off the school and possibly meet with the elders. Ill approach it as questions like ive seen some do in youtube recordings of jc. Im not afraid really because she said shes behind me and doesnt give a damn if were labelled, itll just sharpen her desire to leave.

But i dont want to just do it and leave nothing for review ;-) so maybe ill record it.

Im over letting the org have control over my decisions but i do feel i owe it to the few brothers who are entrapped to attempt to reach them. If not, oh well. Life goes on.And without the fear of them convincing my wife to leave me, which weve discussed may happen, i dont feel any reason not to make something productive out of this.

Well see how things develop.

JP

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Letter to Governing Body .Recorded conversations with Elders

by Watchtower-Free in

i found this on youtube...very good example of twisted reasoning by elders.. .

recorded conversations with elders by a former pioneer....a series.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw8amuphqis.

Jon Preston

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GlRg5otUHT8

heres part two...absolutely crazy circular reasoning going on here

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Obama-care and the WT

by lambsbottom in

the gb must loooove obama-care socialist health-care.

jws can go part time to pioneer and then still get health care coverage, while the successful jws and other non jw successful people foot the tax bill.

god i hate socialism..

Jon Preston

Well it sure as hell doesnt help me! 50k a year gets me no where...500 for family insureance with shite coverage and still paying out of pocket for all my appointments? Psh. Between that and rent and food im basically poverty level lol.

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Question

by Terry in

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i'm writing a science-fiction novel which takes place on--where else?

it will contain allegorical allusions to the watch tower.. .

do you think you'd be interested in it if i publish it?.

Jon Preston

Terry ill read it! I read the John carter of mars series and loved them...with a dystopian/watchtorian addition it would make it that much more interesting

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An important point i learnt from the gospel of peter doc

by Jon Preston in

so i watchd a doc on the gospel of petey!

and it was brought out that a tradition of the civilizations of the old is to look to these alostles as authoritative and some would write in a manner that siggested the higher ups ( matt, john, mark, peter) wrote it....if this is true then the gospels are just as accurate as the "lost" gospel of peter...whacha think?

if true this truly jeopardizes the trub of the old testamenth.

Jon Preston

No tik its much worse than that....I posted from my phone :-O. Lol

Phizzy--thanks for that! Ill check it out.

I just thought it was interesting that some traditions back then were to write something and claim its from an apostle or someone in a leadership position. Im not saying its fact but it did make me raise an eyebrow.

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Jesus was a False Prophet - But was he deluded or deceitful?

by cofty in

any objective reading of the gospels makes it plain that jesus believed his parousia would happen within the lifetime of his generation.. his followers believed in his imminent return until the day of their deaths.. his false prophecy damaged the lives of his disciples in a similar way to that done by the lies of modern cults like the watchtower.

peter and others walked out on their wives, children and businesses to follow him around palestine.

jesus taught them to put their families and other normal concerns in second place to their task of spreading his message - which turned out to be false.. the question is what he was up to?.

Jon Preston

Heres the thing dor believers likee and sylvia...if Jesus only calls those who he draws or Jehovah draws us....why so many who feel loaded down or WHY so much evidence in contradiction to it? Truste if god indeed wanted all to be saved, he wouldve made spirituality testable, observable, with miracles and prophecies fulfilled withing the open light

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Jesus was a False Prophet - But was he deluded or deceitful?

by cofty in

any objective reading of the gospels makes it plain that jesus believed his parousia would happen within the lifetime of his generation.. his followers believed in his imminent return until the day of their deaths.. his false prophecy damaged the lives of his disciples in a similar way to that done by the lies of modern cults like the watchtower.

peter and others walked out on their wives, children and businesses to follow him around palestine.

jesus taught them to put their families and other normal concerns in second place to their task of spreading his message - which turned out to be false.. the question is what he was up to?.

Jon Preston

I may be inebriated but....i have found myself agreeing with much of this....damnit whats it mean? I want to believe! I want to know theres all these things that are teue butysteriois from the past....bit how are any of those nobles smarter than i or others whi are smarter than me?